jkballer23
Mar 27, 08:41 PM
they will probably continue with universal binary versions for a while. Lots of people still have PPC products, and most will still have them for a while. I would say the minimum of 3 years, but I'm sure they'll continue with updates.
Lacero
Mar 17, 02:59 AM
Is is an on-focus mouse-over effect coupled with an animated gif, as to how they achieve the magnification effect within the browser? Or is it Dynamic HTML or some new-fangled technology only created within Google?
bousozoku
Apr 19, 11:14 AM
Since the new version fixes the problem, update. If you've updated, what's the point? ;)
pcypert
Mar 18, 08:20 PM
I saw the coolest stickers in a Nintendo magazine the other day. Just put the stickers on the Wii and the Motes and you have a classic Nintendo. They looked really sharp and worked well. Wish I had pics....that was a mod I might do. Make everything look old school...
Paul
Paul
wmmk
Apr 20, 09:03 PM
Why don't you just call the number?
i wouldn't want to disturb His Steveness :)
they said they'd cal back, didn't tell my mom to tell me to call 'em, but hey, i'm calling them now...
EDIT:
thank you for calling apple
from time to time, we call customers to inform them about new services and products
you call was either about mac os x tiger, the new imac G5 (yes, they said G5, not intel, i guess they're just pushing those), or our apple protection plan
call 1-800-MY-APPLE to learn more about our great products
thank you for calling apple
DARN,DARN, DARN!
anyone know who to actually contact at apple about development who will actually be a human, any not be from the paid adc membership help thing?
fiddlesticks! and i though i was gonna be a millionaire! :mad:
i wouldn't want to disturb His Steveness :)
they said they'd cal back, didn't tell my mom to tell me to call 'em, but hey, i'm calling them now...
EDIT:
thank you for calling apple
from time to time, we call customers to inform them about new services and products
you call was either about mac os x tiger, the new imac G5 (yes, they said G5, not intel, i guess they're just pushing those), or our apple protection plan
call 1-800-MY-APPLE to learn more about our great products
thank you for calling apple
DARN,DARN, DARN!
anyone know who to actually contact at apple about development who will actually be a human, any not be from the paid adc membership help thing?
fiddlesticks! and i though i was gonna be a millionaire! :mad:
Nicolasdec
Mar 24, 08:02 AM
World of warcraft:)
.jpg "Katrina Kaif 3 iPhone 4")
BJNY
Sep 10, 05:44 PM
AppleP58,
Please shed some light on this subject of CPU's and motherboards. When will Apple WOW its faithful?
Billy
Please shed some light on this subject of CPU's and motherboards. When will Apple WOW its faithful?
Billy
netdog
Jun 4, 11:36 AM
Just be yourself.
RogueLdr
Oct 8, 02:45 AM
I assume that we are only talking about a reciever component at this time?
If that is the case, then a $2,000 reciever would have to have every conceivable bell and whistle to garner that price. By that I mean support for THX Ultra and/or THX Select audio and support for Dolby Digital EX standards, auto-adjustment to sound level determined by a user-defined seating position in relation to the speaker placement (a'la Bose Lifestyles systems), and somewhere in the neighborhood of a million possible sound sources (an exaggeration to be sure, but you get my point.)
I would welcome a reciever with all of these features rolled into one, and might be willing to shell out the cash to get one, but unless it does everything, Apple compatibility will not be enough to justify such a high price.
RL
If that is the case, then a $2,000 reciever would have to have every conceivable bell and whistle to garner that price. By that I mean support for THX Ultra and/or THX Select audio and support for Dolby Digital EX standards, auto-adjustment to sound level determined by a user-defined seating position in relation to the speaker placement (a'la Bose Lifestyles systems), and somewhere in the neighborhood of a million possible sound sources (an exaggeration to be sure, but you get my point.)
I would welcome a reciever with all of these features rolled into one, and might be willing to shell out the cash to get one, but unless it does everything, Apple compatibility will not be enough to justify such a high price.
RL
fpnc
Mar 18, 05:23 PM
So, if I use PyMusique, and Apple cancels my account, thereby forcing me to use some other music store, or P2P service, Apple comes out ahead how, exactly?
No one's account is getting cancelled...
Yes, Apple might cancel your account, so go ahead and be the first to try. Thus, if they have to cancel one, or ten, or a thousand accounts to protect their service you really don't think they will do that? It wouldn't be any big deal if they lose a few thousand accounts over this, since that would likely be only a few thousand dollars in revenue (if even that), less than a day or two's legal fees for a half decent lawyer.
In that case, it won't take people very long to learn that they shouldn't use such obvious methods to violate the iTunes Music Store Terms Of Service (TOS) and (possibly) the DMCA.
Note: iTunes Music Store TOS -- that legal statement that you said "Yes" to when you signed up for the iTunes service.
Everybody relax.
Exactly, that's why I said in my previous post that this doesn't really mean much.
Edit: replaced EULA with iTunes Music Store TOS.
No one's account is getting cancelled...
Yes, Apple might cancel your account, so go ahead and be the first to try. Thus, if they have to cancel one, or ten, or a thousand accounts to protect their service you really don't think they will do that? It wouldn't be any big deal if they lose a few thousand accounts over this, since that would likely be only a few thousand dollars in revenue (if even that), less than a day or two's legal fees for a half decent lawyer.
In that case, it won't take people very long to learn that they shouldn't use such obvious methods to violate the iTunes Music Store Terms Of Service (TOS) and (possibly) the DMCA.
Note: iTunes Music Store TOS -- that legal statement that you said "Yes" to when you signed up for the iTunes service.
Everybody relax.
Exactly, that's why I said in my previous post that this doesn't really mean much.
Edit: replaced EULA with iTunes Music Store TOS.
Inhale420
Oct 11, 12:26 PM
Originally posted by j763
[ANTI-WINDOWS]
BUT... i'd like to raise this important point. wtf are the win32 users using their CPU power for? Typing up word documents really fast? browsing the web with Internet Exporer v6.000.21312.185726351;SP1? or perhaps having to wait only 10 seconds for windows media player to launch? win32 is simply a craptacular operating system to the extent where it shouldn't be recognized (and i certainly don't recognize it) as a real operating system. mac and *nix (excl. linux-on-the-desktop) is where it's at. get over it.
[/ANTI-WINDOWS]
you gotta be ****ing kidding me. it's so amusing to witness the brainwashed and ignorant roam the earth. yes, i use the latest version of ie and browse these forums 10x faster than whatever mac browser you're using. i only have the default ie on my mac, because there's no point in installing other browsers when you have a pc.
i also have a hell of an easier time developing for the web using the tabbeb-based version of dreamweaver and coldfusion studio. i export 3ds artwork to flash, and the performance of my 2 year old 1ghz athlon is amazing. and when i'm done with work, I USE MY PC AS A GAME MACHINE. the only reason i have a mac, is because i really want to use them for 2d graphics, but apple really ****ing do something brilliant if they expect me to upgrade.
so can you explain what you mean by 'not recognizing' windows? that statement made absolutely NO sense. don't be such a bigot.
[ANTI-WINDOWS]
BUT... i'd like to raise this important point. wtf are the win32 users using their CPU power for? Typing up word documents really fast? browsing the web with Internet Exporer v6.000.21312.185726351;SP1? or perhaps having to wait only 10 seconds for windows media player to launch? win32 is simply a craptacular operating system to the extent where it shouldn't be recognized (and i certainly don't recognize it) as a real operating system. mac and *nix (excl. linux-on-the-desktop) is where it's at. get over it.
[/ANTI-WINDOWS]
you gotta be ****ing kidding me. it's so amusing to witness the brainwashed and ignorant roam the earth. yes, i use the latest version of ie and browse these forums 10x faster than whatever mac browser you're using. i only have the default ie on my mac, because there's no point in installing other browsers when you have a pc.
i also have a hell of an easier time developing for the web using the tabbeb-based version of dreamweaver and coldfusion studio. i export 3ds artwork to flash, and the performance of my 2 year old 1ghz athlon is amazing. and when i'm done with work, I USE MY PC AS A GAME MACHINE. the only reason i have a mac, is because i really want to use them for 2d graphics, but apple really ****ing do something brilliant if they expect me to upgrade.
so can you explain what you mean by 'not recognizing' windows? that statement made absolutely NO sense. don't be such a bigot.
jaykk
Sep 22, 12:30 PM
I got the following news item by a quick search in Google.
"Although Microsoft presents NT as a homegrown OS, NT is actually much older than its official 1993 birthdate. NT contains architectural and design influences from another company's flagship OS. Interestingly, throughout the 1990s, Digital introduced many NT features to VMS, and Microsoft has added VMS developments to NT. For example, VMS featured native clustering support in 1984, and 64-bit memory and system APIs in 1996. Microsoft did not introduce clustering support to NT until late last year_and only on a limited scale_and several years might pass before Microsoft releases 64-bit NT."
Interesting..
Windows NT and VMS : The Rest of the story (http://www.winntmag.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=4494&pg=3)
"Although Microsoft presents NT as a homegrown OS, NT is actually much older than its official 1993 birthdate. NT contains architectural and design influences from another company's flagship OS. Interestingly, throughout the 1990s, Digital introduced many NT features to VMS, and Microsoft has added VMS developments to NT. For example, VMS featured native clustering support in 1984, and 64-bit memory and system APIs in 1996. Microsoft did not introduce clustering support to NT until late last year_and only on a limited scale_and several years might pass before Microsoft releases 64-bit NT."
Interesting..
Windows NT and VMS : The Rest of the story (http://www.winntmag.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=4494&pg=3)
ddtlm
Oct 21, 07:52 PM
maxvamp:
Unless the apps you listed have specific use for lots of 64-bit integers or for more than 4gigs of RAM, then I think that AltiVec does a better job than anything that 64-bitness brings to the table. Other than 64-bit integers, whats the point in doing things 64 bits at a time when you can do them 128 bits at a time, without any "funny" business of swapping values into high and low ends of registers?
I'm as happy as anyone about the idea of getting a PPC-970 based Mac, but I far as I can see, the 64-bitness is not something that makes much difference either way.
Unless the apps you listed have specific use for lots of 64-bit integers or for more than 4gigs of RAM, then I think that AltiVec does a better job than anything that 64-bitness brings to the table. Other than 64-bit integers, whats the point in doing things 64 bits at a time when you can do them 128 bits at a time, without any "funny" business of swapping values into high and low ends of registers?
I'm as happy as anyone about the idea of getting a PPC-970 based Mac, but I far as I can see, the 64-bitness is not something that makes much difference either way.
Wry Cooter
Sep 12, 04:33 AM
Originally posted by Moxiemike
Face it. It's time the design industry stop being *****-footed troglodytes and realize that, yes, indeed, ID combined with OS X on a new PowerMac will increase your productivity.
Merely keep in mind some of the basis for the *****-footed troglodysm. Direct to press rips in the seven figure range (burning postscript directly to a printing presses plates ain't the same as buying a new inkjet) , image setters in the six figure range, archives of editorial and advertising material that need the old system, and a workflow dependant on custom plug-ins that may not be able to be rewritten for several reasons in todays economic climate. It's easy to rebut that some of the above will not be directly affected, but every bump in the status quo creates a ripple that might grow out of hand.
InDesign by itself cannot solve all of these problems, merely because it is OS X compatible.
Face it. It's time the design industry stop being *****-footed troglodytes and realize that, yes, indeed, ID combined with OS X on a new PowerMac will increase your productivity.
Merely keep in mind some of the basis for the *****-footed troglodysm. Direct to press rips in the seven figure range (burning postscript directly to a printing presses plates ain't the same as buying a new inkjet) , image setters in the six figure range, archives of editorial and advertising material that need the old system, and a workflow dependant on custom plug-ins that may not be able to be rewritten for several reasons in todays economic climate. It's easy to rebut that some of the above will not be directly affected, but every bump in the status quo creates a ripple that might grow out of hand.
InDesign by itself cannot solve all of these problems, merely because it is OS X compatible.
iDM
Jan 24, 10:52 PM
After seeing all of the MacRumors folders, I thought I'd give it a try.
At first I tried downloading the terminal version, that was over my head, so I got rid of that and switched to the Graphical version (NON-screensaver).
Now I don't know what preferences I'm supposed to set...
I figured out the identity settings (I'm EricNau and my team is set to "3446" (MacRumors).
As for the Proxy settings; I don't even know what a proxy is. (As far as networking and Internet goes; I'm clueless). I'm I supposed to use a proxy server, if so, how do I set it up? Does it make a difference?
Should I allow WU larger than 5 MB? (I'm using the iMac in my sig)
What number of polygons should I set, and what should my checkpoint frequency be?
Finally, what view should I set; Spacefilled, Ball & Stick, Wireframe, or Alpha Trace? I don't really care what it looks like, I just want to cut down on wasted CPU usage (as it is much better used to fold). Will Hiding the entire window help?
Thanks.
I am a fresh folder as well. I had a couple question but in the desire of saving a new thread I was wondering if anyone could help.
I just downloaded the .dmg of folding and tonight is my first experience folding so I have got the protein started but I have a couple of questions.
First off, I know that on the FAQ page it says that this program will not over heat your computer as long as it is properly cooled. However I am on a 2-yr old PB that is my main and only machine so with recent posts and threads talking about HD failure after a couple of years it gets me a little concerned. I assume however that this is not a HD intensive only processor intensive which I am more comfortable with but still I would like to know the realistic amount of wear and tear on which components of my machine.
Second according to my calculations the progress is 0.25 after 30 minutes of time. Wouldn't that mean this protein would take 200 hrs? (30x4=120mins(0.25x4=1%) 120x100=12000mins or 200hrs) My concern is not over the run time but over if this will even be useful data after 200hrs. I read somewhere that if the protein is not received in enough time then it can not be used and instead only the stats are added to the folding group which no offense doesn't mean as much to me as the scientific stand point.
Thirdly I understand that running the console uses more processor cycles and therefore isn't as efficient. With that being the case is running terminal the most efficient way?
And last which is least important and more of just a comment/observation, a dual-core or quad-core G5 must dominate these folding tasks. Anyone have any idea if those super computers around the world are doing these calculations? Like that one at Virginia - Tech?
At first I tried downloading the terminal version, that was over my head, so I got rid of that and switched to the Graphical version (NON-screensaver).
Now I don't know what preferences I'm supposed to set...
I figured out the identity settings (I'm EricNau and my team is set to "3446" (MacRumors).
As for the Proxy settings; I don't even know what a proxy is. (As far as networking and Internet goes; I'm clueless). I'm I supposed to use a proxy server, if so, how do I set it up? Does it make a difference?
Should I allow WU larger than 5 MB? (I'm using the iMac in my sig)
What number of polygons should I set, and what should my checkpoint frequency be?
Finally, what view should I set; Spacefilled, Ball & Stick, Wireframe, or Alpha Trace? I don't really care what it looks like, I just want to cut down on wasted CPU usage (as it is much better used to fold). Will Hiding the entire window help?
Thanks.
I am a fresh folder as well. I had a couple question but in the desire of saving a new thread I was wondering if anyone could help.
I just downloaded the .dmg of folding and tonight is my first experience folding so I have got the protein started but I have a couple of questions.
First off, I know that on the FAQ page it says that this program will not over heat your computer as long as it is properly cooled. However I am on a 2-yr old PB that is my main and only machine so with recent posts and threads talking about HD failure after a couple of years it gets me a little concerned. I assume however that this is not a HD intensive only processor intensive which I am more comfortable with but still I would like to know the realistic amount of wear and tear on which components of my machine.
Second according to my calculations the progress is 0.25 after 30 minutes of time. Wouldn't that mean this protein would take 200 hrs? (30x4=120mins(0.25x4=1%) 120x100=12000mins or 200hrs) My concern is not over the run time but over if this will even be useful data after 200hrs. I read somewhere that if the protein is not received in enough time then it can not be used and instead only the stats are added to the folding group which no offense doesn't mean as much to me as the scientific stand point.
Thirdly I understand that running the console uses more processor cycles and therefore isn't as efficient. With that being the case is running terminal the most efficient way?
And last which is least important and more of just a comment/observation, a dual-core or quad-core G5 must dominate these folding tasks. Anyone have any idea if those super computers around the world are doing these calculations? Like that one at Virginia - Tech?
wdlove
Nov 29, 03:53 PM
Were the lucky ones that you found this forum, thank you! ;)
technocoy
Oct 22, 06:16 PM
i think theres already a thread about this...:)
ionisation
Jun 6, 05:27 AM
i keep looking at the charts and thinking that the mac folders somewhere way down the list should join us. i personally think that MacOS X are fine as they are, but we however could do with and extra 10k a day.... especially at the moment since we have dropped below 50k per day. i wish they would...
oh well. it's all for a good cause etc.
oh well. it's all for a good cause etc.
GeeYouEye
Nov 9, 12:12 AM
I got directed to macosrumors.com from another, non-Mac, site. from there it was only a typo away.
Hehe. Honestly, at first I thought MOSR was great and MR was crap. I was certainly wrong about that.
Hehe. Honestly, at first I thought MOSR was great and MR was crap. I was certainly wrong about that.
MacRumorUser
Mar 18, 01:53 PM
MRU - you know I own the 360 and the HD-DVD drive. What I meant was, if the Xbox 360's standard drive is also an HD-DVD player, it won't be practical unless the fan is a lot quieter.
oh yeah sorry I missinterpreted your post. it's a st.patricks day hangover. ;) :D
oh yeah sorry I missinterpreted your post. it's a st.patricks day hangover. ;) :D
Dagless
Mar 22, 05:56 PM
No, you still don't get it.
If you download the full version of the Internet Channel before July then it will always be free. You will not be spending a penny on the channel at all, ever.
If you download the full version after July you will have to buy it for 500 points.
If you download the full version of the Internet Channel before July then it will always be free. You will not be spending a penny on the channel at all, ever.
If you download the full version after July you will have to buy it for 500 points.
alex_ant
Oct 9, 08:26 PM
Originally posted by gopher
Spec fp is extremely biased because it assumes the case of zero error code. It doesn't measure raw performance like floating point calculations per second does. When errors occur in code, the Pentium grinds to a halt, sometimes even making the Pentium IV slower than the Pentium III that is a whole Ghz slower!
I have a question for you:
Why does the Motorola G4 do so poorly in SPEC, while:
The MIPS R12000 & R14000,
The Intel Pentium III, 4 & Celeron,
The AMD Athlon,
The HP/Compaq PA-RISC,
The HP/Compaq Alpha,
The Sun SPARC,
The IBM Power3 & Power4,
all thoroughly trounce it? Only the Athlon and Pentium are x86 compatible. The MIPS R12000 only runs at 500MHz and it still kicks the snot out of the 1GHz G4. Why is that? Honestly, you don't believe Apple is at the mercy of a vast conspiracy which is the plot of SPEC and the processor manufacturers, do you?
When RC5 and Genentech tests prove that raw performance the G4 is much faster than the Pentium IV or AMD, which it does, then it basically throws out the whole idea that Mhz matters. The G4 is 4 to 5 times faster.
At certain highly specialized tasks, yes. Because these are two of the very few tasks which are ABLE with ANY amount of tweaking to perform well on the G4.
As for hand optimizing code, you don't have to do it. What you do have to do is write developers of your software if you are displeased with how poorly they optimize code, or go seek better written software.
Great idea.
Dear Microsoft,
I am displeased with the performance of Word v.X on my Mac (PowerBook G4 667). The cursor always seems to lag, and the application doesn't respond nearly as quickly as it does on my similar PC notebook. Could you like, fix this? Throw a little AltiVec in there, couldn't cost you more than $50,000.
Thanks,
Joe User
As for other factors which influence speed, let's look at the internet browsing which people constantly harp about being slower on a Mac than a PC. My 768/128 DSL on my G4/800 Flat Panel iMac is easily 5 times faster browsing webpages than my T-3 based Windows 2000 Pentium III 1 Ghz machine. I wait and wait on this Pentium III. Goes to show you processor isn't everything.
So your argument has changed from "the G4 isn't slow" to "processor isn't everything anyway?"
It is in software, and until people realize it is in the software, complaining about hardware is not going to matter a hill of beans.
Of course "it is in the software." "It" is also in the hardware. "It" is in both. Apple needs faster software. They have been improving in that area. They need faster hardware as well. They have not been improving nearly as much as they need to be in that area.
64 bit processors are so slow to be developed because so few people have made their software optimized for 64 bit operations. If people need it, they'll get it. For 99% of computer use processor speed of machines nowadays is more than adequate both on PC and the Mac. Adding peripherals though is much easier on the Mac, and installing and removing software still is much easier on the Mac without causing a crash. And ease also means less time spent. So what does speed of the machine have to do with productivity when machines like PCs are so hard to manage? Nothing! Because when it is easier, it takes less time. That's the Mac advantage.
Finally, something you said that I agree with!
Spec fp is extremely biased because it assumes the case of zero error code. It doesn't measure raw performance like floating point calculations per second does. When errors occur in code, the Pentium grinds to a halt, sometimes even making the Pentium IV slower than the Pentium III that is a whole Ghz slower!
I have a question for you:
Why does the Motorola G4 do so poorly in SPEC, while:
The MIPS R12000 & R14000,
The Intel Pentium III, 4 & Celeron,
The AMD Athlon,
The HP/Compaq PA-RISC,
The HP/Compaq Alpha,
The Sun SPARC,
The IBM Power3 & Power4,
all thoroughly trounce it? Only the Athlon and Pentium are x86 compatible. The MIPS R12000 only runs at 500MHz and it still kicks the snot out of the 1GHz G4. Why is that? Honestly, you don't believe Apple is at the mercy of a vast conspiracy which is the plot of SPEC and the processor manufacturers, do you?
When RC5 and Genentech tests prove that raw performance the G4 is much faster than the Pentium IV or AMD, which it does, then it basically throws out the whole idea that Mhz matters. The G4 is 4 to 5 times faster.
At certain highly specialized tasks, yes. Because these are two of the very few tasks which are ABLE with ANY amount of tweaking to perform well on the G4.
As for hand optimizing code, you don't have to do it. What you do have to do is write developers of your software if you are displeased with how poorly they optimize code, or go seek better written software.
Great idea.
Dear Microsoft,
I am displeased with the performance of Word v.X on my Mac (PowerBook G4 667). The cursor always seems to lag, and the application doesn't respond nearly as quickly as it does on my similar PC notebook. Could you like, fix this? Throw a little AltiVec in there, couldn't cost you more than $50,000.
Thanks,
Joe User
As for other factors which influence speed, let's look at the internet browsing which people constantly harp about being slower on a Mac than a PC. My 768/128 DSL on my G4/800 Flat Panel iMac is easily 5 times faster browsing webpages than my T-3 based Windows 2000 Pentium III 1 Ghz machine. I wait and wait on this Pentium III. Goes to show you processor isn't everything.
So your argument has changed from "the G4 isn't slow" to "processor isn't everything anyway?"
It is in software, and until people realize it is in the software, complaining about hardware is not going to matter a hill of beans.
Of course "it is in the software." "It" is also in the hardware. "It" is in both. Apple needs faster software. They have been improving in that area. They need faster hardware as well. They have not been improving nearly as much as they need to be in that area.
64 bit processors are so slow to be developed because so few people have made their software optimized for 64 bit operations. If people need it, they'll get it. For 99% of computer use processor speed of machines nowadays is more than adequate both on PC and the Mac. Adding peripherals though is much easier on the Mac, and installing and removing software still is much easier on the Mac without causing a crash. And ease also means less time spent. So what does speed of the machine have to do with productivity when machines like PCs are so hard to manage? Nothing! Because when it is easier, it takes less time. That's the Mac advantage.
Finally, something you said that I agree with!
Peyote
Dec 22, 09:33 AM
Well that's it. I guess we graphic designers will soon be obsolete models!
I imagine some day Honda will invent a robot that can conceptualize and that has an imagination. Then we're really screwed.
I imagine some day Honda will invent a robot that can conceptualize and that has an imagination. Then we're really screwed.
Telomar
Sep 6, 09:07 AM
Just a couple things on the topic of costs.
Firstly Hon Hai has apparently been awarded the contract for production. If this is the case Apple will have significantly cut costs based on the contract prices being charged. Quanta charges significantly more than Hon Hai.
Secondly if they use a 19" LCD it will likely be widescreen. This means lower costs compared to regular aspect ratios.
Thirdly the LCD will likely be a 5th generation LCD rather than the 4G currently used. A 17" 5G LCD should cost around the price of an old 15" LCD and the 19" should come in probably near current 17" prices. That alone means it wouldn't be hard to switch the monitors without incurring additional costs.
I don't know a thing about style or the arm so debate that until you turn blue and yes I did just basically repost what I said in another thread.
Firstly Hon Hai has apparently been awarded the contract for production. If this is the case Apple will have significantly cut costs based on the contract prices being charged. Quanta charges significantly more than Hon Hai.
Secondly if they use a 19" LCD it will likely be widescreen. This means lower costs compared to regular aspect ratios.
Thirdly the LCD will likely be a 5th generation LCD rather than the 4G currently used. A 17" 5G LCD should cost around the price of an old 15" LCD and the 19" should come in probably near current 17" prices. That alone means it wouldn't be hard to switch the monitors without incurring additional costs.
I don't know a thing about style or the arm so debate that until you turn blue and yes I did just basically repost what I said in another thread.
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