
imacintel
May 30, 05:50 PM
Yes, but they sorta specified the loop thing, so...
alex_ant
Oct 4, 06:13 PM
Mac OS Rumors is run by a guy whose only job is to cull rumors from other rumor sites (like this one) and present them in a single place. It is not really a rumor source - just a rumor summary.
There will be a line of Motorola MPC8500 (G5) processors. The only questions are: 1) when, and 2) will they appear in Macs. The answer to 1 is "when the fab in which they will be produced is finished," which will probably be sometime no sooner than Q2 of next year. The answer to 2 is "probably." If a Motorola G5 fulfilling all of Apple's requirements existed, there is no reason Apple wouldn't want to use it, even if they already had the IBM GPUL.
By this time next year, I think it is likely that Apple will be in the process of transitioning its entire product lines to these new CPUs. I think the G3 will be replaced by the G4 in the iBook next year. Whichever CPU the PowerBook gets will be dependent upon which of these two next-gen CPUs is the most energy-efficient.
There will be a line of Motorola MPC8500 (G5) processors. The only questions are: 1) when, and 2) will they appear in Macs. The answer to 1 is "when the fab in which they will be produced is finished," which will probably be sometime no sooner than Q2 of next year. The answer to 2 is "probably." If a Motorola G5 fulfilling all of Apple's requirements existed, there is no reason Apple wouldn't want to use it, even if they already had the IBM GPUL.
By this time next year, I think it is likely that Apple will be in the process of transitioning its entire product lines to these new CPUs. I think the G3 will be replaced by the G4 in the iBook next year. Whichever CPU the PowerBook gets will be dependent upon which of these two next-gen CPUs is the most energy-efficient.
IJ Reilly
Apr 17, 11:06 AM
Interesting observations.
Easy DOS It:
Apple's Plan to Provide the Best Darned Windows Experience Anywhere -- Even Better Than Microsoft
By Robert X. Cringely
One part of last week's column on Apple's Boot Camp that slipped past many readers was the idea that Apple would actually start shipping OEM versions of Windows Vista with at least some of its computers. I believe that will be the case and, if so, it is a big deal, and could lead to Apple becoming the biggest vendor of Windows computers to business, which I think is a hoot.
The story came to me, as many do, from a reader. He's the night auditor at a hotel, and one evening around 2AM, found across from his Front Desk seven somewhat intoxicated Microsoft engineers who wanted to order morning wakeup calls. They started talking and my reader asked if Intel Macs would ever run Windows? That's all it took to start a 20-minute presentation (obviously prepared and long-practiced) on that exact subject, how Intel Macs will run Windows Vista very well, thank you. Not only that, but the Microsoft engineers were convinced Vista would be so superior that nobody would need OS X again.
These same seven engineers must have stopped for a drink not long ago at John Dvorak's house because he's been making the same claim -- that Apple will drop OS X for Windows.
That's not at all what I think will happen. Apple isn't going to throw away its clearest point of differentiation and greatest technical advantage just to become another Windows OEM. That would make them little better than Sony and Sony can out-manufacture Apple any day.
Where Dvorak is wrong is he believes Microsoft's version of the story -- that Apple will abandon OS X, at least for business, replacing it with Windows Vista. After all, isn't that what this Boot Camp stuff is all about, enabling the choice of OSX or Windows?
Not really.
The rest. (http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20060413.html)
Easy DOS It:
Apple's Plan to Provide the Best Darned Windows Experience Anywhere -- Even Better Than Microsoft
By Robert X. Cringely
One part of last week's column on Apple's Boot Camp that slipped past many readers was the idea that Apple would actually start shipping OEM versions of Windows Vista with at least some of its computers. I believe that will be the case and, if so, it is a big deal, and could lead to Apple becoming the biggest vendor of Windows computers to business, which I think is a hoot.
The story came to me, as many do, from a reader. He's the night auditor at a hotel, and one evening around 2AM, found across from his Front Desk seven somewhat intoxicated Microsoft engineers who wanted to order morning wakeup calls. They started talking and my reader asked if Intel Macs would ever run Windows? That's all it took to start a 20-minute presentation (obviously prepared and long-practiced) on that exact subject, how Intel Macs will run Windows Vista very well, thank you. Not only that, but the Microsoft engineers were convinced Vista would be so superior that nobody would need OS X again.
These same seven engineers must have stopped for a drink not long ago at John Dvorak's house because he's been making the same claim -- that Apple will drop OS X for Windows.
That's not at all what I think will happen. Apple isn't going to throw away its clearest point of differentiation and greatest technical advantage just to become another Windows OEM. That would make them little better than Sony and Sony can out-manufacture Apple any day.
Where Dvorak is wrong is he believes Microsoft's version of the story -- that Apple will abandon OS X, at least for business, replacing it with Windows Vista. After all, isn't that what this Boot Camp stuff is all about, enabling the choice of OSX or Windows?
Not really.
The rest. (http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20060413.html)
MacBytes
Dec 23, 11:32 AM
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Ervino
Sep 28, 11:45 AM
Yawwwn! I can't belive that somebody is *still* wasting money & time with that lame iPod.
Please, get a look on a *real* little wonder:
Archos MULTIMEDIA JukeBox
http://www.archos.com/lang=en//products/prw_500281.html
And, please, not again the boring reply "but the iPod have FireWire by default"... ;-)))
Cheers
Ervino
Please, get a look on a *real* little wonder:
Archos MULTIMEDIA JukeBox
http://www.archos.com/lang=en//products/prw_500281.html
And, please, not again the boring reply "but the iPod have FireWire by default"... ;-)))
Cheers
Ervino
benixau
Oct 16, 06:17 PM
Apple says that the eMac was made for education users in conjunction with educations users. It addresses the issues that they had with the old and new iMacs.
PS. Your opinion RogueLdr is probably close to the truth. But, apple would develop a CRT monitor after stating that they were moving to an all LCD line.
It seems that they reakised that the new iMacs were a tad too expensive in their basic config and too fragile for a classroom. The eMac is very, very hard to break. I know.
A kid at my school knocked one off the back of a table whilst trying to get it and the keyboard (piano, not computer) to fit on the desk aswell. Damn, i was wrong. The aint got chiped and the MIDI converter had to be replaced. eMac was fine though.
PS. Your opinion RogueLdr is probably close to the truth. But, apple would develop a CRT monitor after stating that they were moving to an all LCD line.
It seems that they reakised that the new iMacs were a tad too expensive in their basic config and too fragile for a classroom. The eMac is very, very hard to break. I know.
A kid at my school knocked one off the back of a table whilst trying to get it and the keyboard (piano, not computer) to fit on the desk aswell. Damn, i was wrong. The aint got chiped and the MIDI converter had to be replaced. eMac was fine though.
Rower_CPU
Oct 14, 12:42 PM
Originally posted by benixau
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No, the top of the line pmac will beat least a dual, has been for ages. Also with the multi processoing capabilities of the new chips, i think we may end up seeing quads, maybe at the end of life stage, but still quads.
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It's been "dual for ages" because that's the only way for Apple to remain competitive using Moto's chips.
If the PowerPC 970 performs as well as it's rumored to, the dual/quad scenario is not neccessary for performance equivalent to the x86 platform.
Dual is still a good candidate for the top end, but keeping prices lower w/ single CPUs is the way to go.
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No, the top of the line pmac will beat least a dual, has been for ages. Also with the multi processoing capabilities of the new chips, i think we may end up seeing quads, maybe at the end of life stage, but still quads.
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It's been "dual for ages" because that's the only way for Apple to remain competitive using Moto's chips.
If the PowerPC 970 performs as well as it's rumored to, the dual/quad scenario is not neccessary for performance equivalent to the x86 platform.
Dual is still a good candidate for the top end, but keeping prices lower w/ single CPUs is the way to go.
ddtlm
Oct 4, 07:24 PM
alex_ant:
There will be a line of Motorola MPC8500 (G5) processors. The only questions are: 1) when, and 2) will they appear in Macs.
A1: They are shipping and have been for a while. A2: No, current 85xx chips are totally unsuitable for Macs. They lack things such as floating point units, which really does lower the ol Photoshop performance, doesn't it. :)
Here is an example: 8540.
http://e-www.motorola.com/webapp/sps/site/prod_summary.jsp?code=MPC8540&nodeId=01M98655
And the similar 8560:
http://e-www.motorola.com/webapp/sps/site/prod_summary.jsp?code=MPC8560&nodeId=01M98657
The chips aren't even high-clocking. Moto lists 1ghz as the Max, not good at all, certainly not much of a G5.
I do not see any reason why a G4 exactly as we know it except fabbed on 90nm or 130nm processes would not be entirely suitable for iBooks, iMacs and PBooks for some time. There is no need to reinvent the wheel if IBM is going to come in and do the high-end chips. Let Moto be slow, thats fine for some models.
There will be a line of Motorola MPC8500 (G5) processors. The only questions are: 1) when, and 2) will they appear in Macs.
A1: They are shipping and have been for a while. A2: No, current 85xx chips are totally unsuitable for Macs. They lack things such as floating point units, which really does lower the ol Photoshop performance, doesn't it. :)
Here is an example: 8540.
http://e-www.motorola.com/webapp/sps/site/prod_summary.jsp?code=MPC8540&nodeId=01M98655
And the similar 8560:
http://e-www.motorola.com/webapp/sps/site/prod_summary.jsp?code=MPC8560&nodeId=01M98657
The chips aren't even high-clocking. Moto lists 1ghz as the Max, not good at all, certainly not much of a G5.
I do not see any reason why a G4 exactly as we know it except fabbed on 90nm or 130nm processes would not be entirely suitable for iBooks, iMacs and PBooks for some time. There is no need to reinvent the wheel if IBM is going to come in and do the high-end chips. Let Moto be slow, thats fine for some models.
darkwing
Mar 21, 08:14 AM
This really sucks. :( I just bought a new house and am going to almost immediately get it wired up for an alarm, though I probably don't need to. It's out in the middle of nowhere. :P Anyhow, if you want to set up a donation paypal account I bet a lot of us can chip in $5 each or something to help. :)
Nicolasdec
Mar 23, 08:35 AM
WOW, Hope you find you xbox.
iGav
Sep 26, 02:07 PM
Originally posted by Shrek
Oh, really. 2004? Hmmm. I think you're overreacting a bit. :p
Not when the current iMac is only at 800MHz...... I reckon I could be spot on here......:)
Oh, really. 2004? Hmmm. I think you're overreacting a bit. :p
Not when the current iMac is only at 800MHz...... I reckon I could be spot on here......:)
daveL
Mar 28, 09:28 PM
Ah, that makes more sense. NeoOffice is the product name. There are two versions, the /C (cocoa) and /J (java) which are aqua implementations of OpenOffice.org.
/c is dead. The amount of work required to re-write the code to fit a cocoa framework would be a lot for a full team of programmers, much less two. Ed talked about that more on the forum.
/j is the current one. it may not be pretty, but it is as native OSX as /C wanted to be, and infinitly more stable.
as for the site, the hope is if you go to the main page (http://www.neooffice.org) it would be clearer. but i do understand, right now there are three sites sorta working together to be the neooffice website.
here is a breakdown of the 'variants'
http://neowiki.sixthcrusade.com/index.php/OpenOffice.org_and_its_Macintosh_ports
-j
Thanks for the reply. Maybe you should bury, or at least hide, NeoOffice/C and promote NeoOffice/J as *the* NeoOffice. Just a suggestion, but I think it would make things a bit clearer to someone visiting the site for the first time. Anyway, all the work you folks have done is greatly appreciated!
/c is dead. The amount of work required to re-write the code to fit a cocoa framework would be a lot for a full team of programmers, much less two. Ed talked about that more on the forum.
/j is the current one. it may not be pretty, but it is as native OSX as /C wanted to be, and infinitly more stable.
as for the site, the hope is if you go to the main page (http://www.neooffice.org) it would be clearer. but i do understand, right now there are three sites sorta working together to be the neooffice website.
here is a breakdown of the 'variants'
http://neowiki.sixthcrusade.com/index.php/OpenOffice.org_and_its_Macintosh_ports
-j
Thanks for the reply. Maybe you should bury, or at least hide, NeoOffice/C and promote NeoOffice/J as *the* NeoOffice. Just a suggestion, but I think it would make things a bit clearer to someone visiting the site for the first time. Anyway, all the work you folks have done is greatly appreciated!
wmmk
Apr 20, 10:29 PM
I don't think they have any interest in a teenager programmer. Sorry. :(
Well, I can't say I blame them. ;)
Still, all I told apple was that I'm a student...
OK, even I admit, no way I will ever be hired by apple inthe next 10 years:mad:
Well, I can't say I blame them. ;)
Still, all I told apple was that I'm a student...
OK, even I admit, no way I will ever be hired by apple inthe next 10 years:mad:
MacBytes
Oct 19, 07:39 AM
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Stevez0r
Mar 23, 09:54 PM
I wonder if I get a imported Cricket game will it work on my North America 360?
dylan
May 30, 08:24 PM
...But the Mac users spend hours chatting through online forums, mainly about the inefficiencies of the PC world.
Hahaha. Sure beats baby-sitting windows though.
Hahaha. Sure beats baby-sitting windows though.

4JNA
Mar 13, 02:19 PM
I have tried the links at work, the first one got me a blank screen, the second one got me a white screen with "OK" in it. Also downloaded the GUI of folding and was messing around with proxy settings, but no luck. What's my next move??
ok. great results. you can see and access the assignment servers. next, if you would, i need to know what the settings are in internet explorer (tools, internet options, connections tab, lan settings, what is showing? any boxes with check marks?
second, open a command window (start, run, type 'command', ok) and type 'tracert assign.stanford.edu' with out the quote marks of course. don't need/care about the first few ip's, just want to see that it resolves the name (dns working) and that it hops to VSPX26.Stanford.edu and shows trace complete at the end (nothing blocked).
last few questions for now are; which version of windows? when you install the windows gui version and attempt to fold, what is the log showing? could you post the log so we could see the results/errors? any messages showing on the gui or just doesn't work? is this a machine that is on all the time?
ok. great results. you can see and access the assignment servers. next, if you would, i need to know what the settings are in internet explorer (tools, internet options, connections tab, lan settings, what is showing? any boxes with check marks?
second, open a command window (start, run, type 'command', ok) and type 'tracert assign.stanford.edu' with out the quote marks of course. don't need/care about the first few ip's, just want to see that it resolves the name (dns working) and that it hops to VSPX26.Stanford.edu and shows trace complete at the end (nothing blocked).
last few questions for now are; which version of windows? when you install the windows gui version and attempt to fold, what is the log showing? could you post the log so we could see the results/errors? any messages showing on the gui or just doesn't work? is this a machine that is on all the time?
MisterMe
Oct 13, 08:23 PM
Originally posted by snoopy
So the lite version should be great on the desktop. Check this out.
http://www.forbes.com/technology/newswire/2002/10/13/rtr749520.html Please note that the linked article is embargoed until April 1st. That is April Fool's Day for those of you outside the USA.
So the lite version should be great on the desktop. Check this out.
http://www.forbes.com/technology/newswire/2002/10/13/rtr749520.html Please note that the linked article is embargoed until April 1st. That is April Fool's Day for those of you outside the USA.
razakaze
Sep 5, 09:25 AM
Discontinuing the Ti line does make sence, but why?
Well as you all know, the Macs today are all graphite coloured, except rfom the Ti.
I see an Graphite Ibook elite series,
a standart 14 inch iBook,
and an low end iBook...
The new generation of portable Mac would sport some kind of high powered G3 running at least 1.5Ghz+.
The G3 (750FX) is far more efficient per clocl cycle than the G4, and could/should be tuning for optimal performance!
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The G3 IS the G4 killer
Well as you all know, the Macs today are all graphite coloured, except rfom the Ti.
I see an Graphite Ibook elite series,
a standart 14 inch iBook,
and an low end iBook...
The new generation of portable Mac would sport some kind of high powered G3 running at least 1.5Ghz+.
The G3 (750FX) is far more efficient per clocl cycle than the G4, and could/should be tuning for optimal performance!
------------------------------------------
The G3 IS the G4 killer
BurtonCCC
Apr 25, 07:39 PM
BitTorrent programs are the only way to go. All that other stuff is garbage. I like BitTorrent because I'm a music junkie and can't stand the fact that most of the music on networks like Kazaa is encoded by people who have no idea what they're doing. So I use Azureus to get full albums by people who, like myself, know what they're doing with music. Sure, Kazaa and Bearshare and great for computer-illiterates who don't care about good quality music, but I'll take the next step up, thank you.
Daniel.
Daniel.
nagromme
Nov 9, 03:45 PM
Sounds useful--but OS X will do encrypted SparseImages for free, without much loss of convenience. And they change size dynamically. And they make a Mac volume even on a Windows-format iPod.
big
Sep 13, 09:58 PM
KOOL, my alarm I set for an event from iCal just went off, that was neat! it also just went off on my iPod too! how cool is that?
anyways
>The Mhz numbers looked nice on p4
most of my die hard PC friends who know the PC also know about the mhz myth, and understand the Mac is great at some things....& can hold its on against a quicker pentium processor,
however, I remember buying my B&W G3, when apple could actually tout it as the fastest machine in the world.
man we have fallen behind so damn fast, until I see 2. something ghz with ddr ram and a bus speed from here to amazing, I will not be buying a new mac.
I use to say I'll wait till dual 1.6 ghz, but I've decided to make apple work for the money I have to work for
anyone else tired of being left behind? I realize our OS is fantastic, the machines (design) and the way they work are amazing (especially with compatibility)
anyways
>The Mhz numbers looked nice on p4
most of my die hard PC friends who know the PC also know about the mhz myth, and understand the Mac is great at some things....& can hold its on against a quicker pentium processor,
however, I remember buying my B&W G3, when apple could actually tout it as the fastest machine in the world.
man we have fallen behind so damn fast, until I see 2. something ghz with ddr ram and a bus speed from here to amazing, I will not be buying a new mac.
I use to say I'll wait till dual 1.6 ghz, but I've decided to make apple work for the money I have to work for
anyone else tired of being left behind? I realize our OS is fantastic, the machines (design) and the way they work are amazing (especially with compatibility)
P-Worm
Sep 7, 01:40 AM
I thought that I heard somewhere that Steve Jobs said that he would never have Apple release a PDA.
As for an iPhone, well inkwell is just to fine an example.;)
As for an iPhone, well inkwell is just to fine an example.;)
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Mar 24, 09:35 AM
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