chmorley
Sep 13, 08:27 PM
Originally posted by gopher
...When your stage is 3 times longer, you have to go three times as fast to catch up.
If your Mac is slower than a PC for any reason on the same application it is because the software hasn't been optimized for the Mac. Write the software developer before you complain about the Mac speed. Get them to develop for Altivec. It makes a world of difference. Not true...and not true.
When a pipeline (not a "stage", as pipelines are made up of stages) is 3 times longer, there are more opportunities for inefficiencies. While in theory this could make some software 3 times less efficient, in real life this is rarely the case.
Secondly, saying the only time Macs are slower than PCs is when apps haven't been optimized for Altivec is patently false. Having applications utilize AltiVec is great, but it often doesn't make up for the fact that the processor is slower.
I am as Pro-Mac as the next guy, but getting the facts wrong makes us just look like we don't know anything about computers. The biggest pro of the Mac is the OS (and the elegance of the experience). It's foolish, though, not to acknowledge the downside, which is slower chips (some say "inferior hardware", but I think that overstates the importance of speed). Overall in the equation, I prefer Macs by a lot, but they're slower than PCs.
No need to deny it.
Chris
...When your stage is 3 times longer, you have to go three times as fast to catch up.
If your Mac is slower than a PC for any reason on the same application it is because the software hasn't been optimized for the Mac. Write the software developer before you complain about the Mac speed. Get them to develop for Altivec. It makes a world of difference. Not true...and not true.
When a pipeline (not a "stage", as pipelines are made up of stages) is 3 times longer, there are more opportunities for inefficiencies. While in theory this could make some software 3 times less efficient, in real life this is rarely the case.
Secondly, saying the only time Macs are slower than PCs is when apps haven't been optimized for Altivec is patently false. Having applications utilize AltiVec is great, but it often doesn't make up for the fact that the processor is slower.
I am as Pro-Mac as the next guy, but getting the facts wrong makes us just look like we don't know anything about computers. The biggest pro of the Mac is the OS (and the elegance of the experience). It's foolish, though, not to acknowledge the downside, which is slower chips (some say "inferior hardware", but I think that overstates the importance of speed). Overall in the equation, I prefer Macs by a lot, but they're slower than PCs.
No need to deny it.
Chris
MrMacMan
Oct 2, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by gopher
http://macspeedzone.com/html/reviews/machines/desktop/towers/aug-02/ghz-vs-ghz.shtml
It seems that the majority of tests the DDR 1 Ghz machine won. Barefeets caused unnecessary concern.
Woo, we can now stop woring. :rolleyes:
This almost sees as laughible as when the testing agency removed all the test that the Althon won over the P4 so the P4 kicked arse in that way.
Why would apple make a not faster system ? ;)
They Only did that ONCE in the past.
http://macspeedzone.com/html/reviews/machines/desktop/towers/aug-02/ghz-vs-ghz.shtml
It seems that the majority of tests the DDR 1 Ghz machine won. Barefeets caused unnecessary concern.
Woo, we can now stop woring. :rolleyes:
This almost sees as laughible as when the testing agency removed all the test that the Althon won over the P4 so the P4 kicked arse in that way.
Why would apple make a not faster system ? ;)
They Only did that ONCE in the past.
Dreadnought
Jul 16, 06:25 AM
I have a dual 1.8 and it gives about 100 to 150 points per dat per proc. I think you could match the same with the iMac. Have fun!
nagromme
Mar 29, 05:55 AM
I haven't seen any real difference between the tabbed browsing in FF and Safari. What feature are you talking about? :confused:
The main difference for me is that Firefox's method for closing one tab is annoying to me.
I also prefer the gray look of Safari (stands apart from pages instead of blending in with white pages and adding to the Inredible Creeping Web Clutter) , the black icons (ditto on the clutter) and the compact toolbars... at first it makes you think, "where's the rest of the browser?" And then you're GLAD Safari fits the same stuff in less space. (But I do turn on the Status Bar.)
The main difference for me is that Firefox's method for closing one tab is annoying to me.
I also prefer the gray look of Safari (stands apart from pages instead of blending in with white pages and adding to the Inredible Creeping Web Clutter) , the black icons (ditto on the clutter) and the compact toolbars... at first it makes you think, "where's the rest of the browser?" And then you're GLAD Safari fits the same stuff in less space. (But I do turn on the Status Bar.)
rickag
Sep 10, 12:43 PM
Great
No Power4 derivative from IBM as per a NASA scientist and no G5 from Motorola as per mac bidouille.....
:(
But, wait, they did mention AMD @ mac bidouille.:rolleyes:
Somebody is not exactly telling the truth.:D
No Power4 derivative from IBM as per a NASA scientist and no G5 from Motorola as per mac bidouille.....
:(
But, wait, they did mention AMD @ mac bidouille.:rolleyes:
Somebody is not exactly telling the truth.:D
Mac2006
Oct 1, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by Shrek
A 19" iMac with a faster processor, faster memory, faster BUS speed, bigger hard drive and better video card. Duh.
:D :D :D
Next thing well know is yall will be wanting a 23" imac....think about it......not going to happen
A 19" iMac with a faster processor, faster memory, faster BUS speed, bigger hard drive and better video card. Duh.
:D :D :D
Next thing well know is yall will be wanting a 23" imac....think about it......not going to happen
dongmin
Sep 8, 12:45 PM
Well it's definitely not beyond the realm of possibility, but just because Sony did it doesn't mean Apple's gonna do it anytime soon.
As someone mentioned, the VAIO is considerably thicker (4 cm to Powerbook's 2.6 cm). If I remember correctly, they had CDRW-DVD combo drives in notebooks (including the iBook) long before Apple was able to fit in a SLOT-LOADING burner into the TiBook.
So for the TiBook, you're gonna have to find a burner that's:
1. slot-loading
2. thin enough
I've yet to see any manufacturer meat EITHER of these requirements...
As someone mentioned, the VAIO is considerably thicker (4 cm to Powerbook's 2.6 cm). If I remember correctly, they had CDRW-DVD combo drives in notebooks (including the iBook) long before Apple was able to fit in a SLOT-LOADING burner into the TiBook.
So for the TiBook, you're gonna have to find a burner that's:
1. slot-loading
2. thin enough
I've yet to see any manufacturer meat EITHER of these requirements...
Nonosse
Sep 11, 07:29 AM
...if i remember correctly, some 5 (10?) years ago, you could compare application forms and pamphlets from Apple and IBM and smile:
- IBM's was, well, "IBM-Like", with people wearing suits, ties, the whole pamphlet sounding professional (and boring),
- Apple's was based on the same structure (not unintentionally, i'd say), with more colours, more life, and people wearing more casual clothes, something of a parody.
Although i'm pretty sure it's wrong, i like to imagine them IBM guys in suits and shades, just like the bad guys in The Matrix... :D
Ok, I know, that works also for FBI style, or MIB, but hey, there's no trademark on dark suits... (and IBM guys won't have the bulk of a gun on the chest or under the armpit, maybe a little PDA...)
Arnaud :)
- IBM's was, well, "IBM-Like", with people wearing suits, ties, the whole pamphlet sounding professional (and boring),
- Apple's was based on the same structure (not unintentionally, i'd say), with more colours, more life, and people wearing more casual clothes, something of a parody.
Although i'm pretty sure it's wrong, i like to imagine them IBM guys in suits and shades, just like the bad guys in The Matrix... :D
Ok, I know, that works also for FBI style, or MIB, but hey, there's no trademark on dark suits... (and IBM guys won't have the bulk of a gun on the chest or under the armpit, maybe a little PDA...)
Arnaud :)
MacCoaster
Oct 19, 08:53 PM
https://jobs.apple.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Employment.woa/32/wo/EbZc5vUPIQL42cELozA1pj98z76/4.2.22.9.2.0.9.3
Title: Lead Systems Design Engineer - iPOD
Req. ID: 1868297
Location: Santa Clara Valley, California
Country: United States
Responsible for electrical design of cool and stylish Apple products. This person will be a member of a top-notch team with responsibilities for the design, implementation, and integration of digital electronics. The applicant should be familiar with computer system architecture and digital design. Duties include schematic capture, prototype bring-up and debugging, hardware bug tracking, functional verification, signal characterization, and manufacturing support.
May work with outside vendors providing new components or electrical assemblies. Assist and track progress of groups who qualify the product such as reliability, EMC, and safety. Responsible for transitioning product to manufacturing and for working on cost reduction. Must be familiar with battery-operated devices and power consumption estimation. Good communication, analytical, and documentation skills desired. May involve international travel to manufacturing sites.
BS/MS EE or equivalent required, as well as 5+ years experience needed. 3+ years in a lead role preferred. Experience in the following areas are important: SDRAM, Flash, ASIC�s, processor selection, ATAPI, various communication protocols (ie: GSM, Bluetooth, IEEE 802.116, Firewire, and USB), display types and audio and analog integration.
Now, why would they need GSM, Bluetooth, IEEE 802.116, Firewire and, *gasp* USB. :)
Rumor away... it's MacRumors.com after all. :D
Title: Lead Systems Design Engineer - iPOD
Req. ID: 1868297
Location: Santa Clara Valley, California
Country: United States
Responsible for electrical design of cool and stylish Apple products. This person will be a member of a top-notch team with responsibilities for the design, implementation, and integration of digital electronics. The applicant should be familiar with computer system architecture and digital design. Duties include schematic capture, prototype bring-up and debugging, hardware bug tracking, functional verification, signal characterization, and manufacturing support.
May work with outside vendors providing new components or electrical assemblies. Assist and track progress of groups who qualify the product such as reliability, EMC, and safety. Responsible for transitioning product to manufacturing and for working on cost reduction. Must be familiar with battery-operated devices and power consumption estimation. Good communication, analytical, and documentation skills desired. May involve international travel to manufacturing sites.
BS/MS EE or equivalent required, as well as 5+ years experience needed. 3+ years in a lead role preferred. Experience in the following areas are important: SDRAM, Flash, ASIC�s, processor selection, ATAPI, various communication protocols (ie: GSM, Bluetooth, IEEE 802.116, Firewire, and USB), display types and audio and analog integration.
Now, why would they need GSM, Bluetooth, IEEE 802.116, Firewire and, *gasp* USB. :)
Rumor away... it's MacRumors.com after all. :D
Cappy
Sep 7, 10:04 AM
Originally posted by MisterMe
You confuse sales which determine market share with users who determine the size of the core constituency.
Interestingly, I notice lately that the more successful Apple becomes, the more I see articles from this firm or that spokesman relating Apple's decline in education, overall market share, stock price, or some such. Yet, I also notice that software vendors who had abandoned the Mac are rejoining the fold. Others who had never supported the Mac are porting their apps to MacOS X. Mac-only vendors seem to be doing better than ever.
If you saw the USA Today (http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/technology/2002-09-05-cheap-pcs_x.htm) today (6 September 2002), then you may have read an article about HP, Gateway, and even Dell all resorting to incentives to move their inventory. Yet, Apple can't move its new machines fast enough.
Get a grip!
Two things to point out here.
1. It's all relative. The whole marketshare thing is not much more than bragging rights now that the market has grown as far as it has and there are only three real competitors. Windows, Mac, and Linux. As long as there are enough sales of Macs out there to keep the developers happy that they can sell products, who really cares what the marketshare really is. Those are things that the media and Joe Shmoe Rumor Monger cares about. Apple only talks about it because it's paying lip service to the crowd. Apple cares about increased sales...marketshare is just a byproduct of it.
2. Apple is using rebates constantly as of late to try moving product. What Mac fanatic site have you been reading? Apple is in the same boat as far as incentives are concerned. And Dell is absolutely killing everyone else in the PC market which is one of the reasons why Gateway is trying to compete against Apple in their ads. They're trying to tackle the Mac market where Dell really isn't making much of an attempt to.
3. Lastly the whole statement about not selling systems fast enough is all relative as well. If Apple only makes 1000 systems a week but has demand for 1500 systems, this would match that statement. If Dell makes 4000 systems a week but has demand for 3500, this would match that statement. Sorry but you've got to be careful about what you read. Dell is in "real" good shape right now and HP isn't too bad either.
Apple has their work cut out for them. Frankly though I do have to say that it's flat out amazing how Apple has weathered the storm with them against the world. That just helps back things up even more that marketshare doesn't mean a whole lot any longer like it used to.
You confuse sales which determine market share with users who determine the size of the core constituency.
Interestingly, I notice lately that the more successful Apple becomes, the more I see articles from this firm or that spokesman relating Apple's decline in education, overall market share, stock price, or some such. Yet, I also notice that software vendors who had abandoned the Mac are rejoining the fold. Others who had never supported the Mac are porting their apps to MacOS X. Mac-only vendors seem to be doing better than ever.
If you saw the USA Today (http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/technology/2002-09-05-cheap-pcs_x.htm) today (6 September 2002), then you may have read an article about HP, Gateway, and even Dell all resorting to incentives to move their inventory. Yet, Apple can't move its new machines fast enough.
Get a grip!
Two things to point out here.
1. It's all relative. The whole marketshare thing is not much more than bragging rights now that the market has grown as far as it has and there are only three real competitors. Windows, Mac, and Linux. As long as there are enough sales of Macs out there to keep the developers happy that they can sell products, who really cares what the marketshare really is. Those are things that the media and Joe Shmoe Rumor Monger cares about. Apple only talks about it because it's paying lip service to the crowd. Apple cares about increased sales...marketshare is just a byproduct of it.
2. Apple is using rebates constantly as of late to try moving product. What Mac fanatic site have you been reading? Apple is in the same boat as far as incentives are concerned. And Dell is absolutely killing everyone else in the PC market which is one of the reasons why Gateway is trying to compete against Apple in their ads. They're trying to tackle the Mac market where Dell really isn't making much of an attempt to.
3. Lastly the whole statement about not selling systems fast enough is all relative as well. If Apple only makes 1000 systems a week but has demand for 1500 systems, this would match that statement. If Dell makes 4000 systems a week but has demand for 3500, this would match that statement. Sorry but you've got to be careful about what you read. Dell is in "real" good shape right now and HP isn't too bad either.
Apple has their work cut out for them. Frankly though I do have to say that it's flat out amazing how Apple has weathered the storm with them against the world. That just helps back things up even more that marketshare doesn't mean a whole lot any longer like it used to.
Dagless
Mar 18, 10:17 AM
Nope.
But playing SSX Blur has told me that EA can produce a fun game.
But playing SSX Blur has told me that EA can produce a fun game.
dpaanlka
May 7, 06:54 PM
Cause the Origami sounds like a great idea, a mix between a PDA and a laptop
The point of a PDA is to have a stripped down personal computer you can fit in your pocket.
The origami is like a huge PDA, with a few more features than a PDA, but still fewer features than a full laptop. What's the point? If you already can't fit the Origami in your pocket, why not just go ahead and buy a normal laptop that can do more?
The point of a PDA is to have a stripped down personal computer you can fit in your pocket.
The origami is like a huge PDA, with a few more features than a PDA, but still fewer features than a full laptop. What's the point? If you already can't fit the Origami in your pocket, why not just go ahead and buy a normal laptop that can do more?
wrldwzrd89
Oct 26, 04:26 AM
Version 0.92 was a little buggy for me (wouldn't import anything), but I like 1.0PR so far. Added a few extensions, and loving it more than ever. It's still no Safari, which will kick *** in version 2 from what I've seen. But vs. IE, no contest. The only thing I miss is when you hold your mouse over an image in IE, a little thing comes over it that gives you the option to save it directly to the Pictures Folder or Print it (or e-mail, or open My Pictures). I tried using Download Sort, but it doesn't seem to work like that.
<snip>
I can't get Firefox 1.0PR to import anything either. I'm using Mozilla 1.7 as my alternative browser in the meantime, since that one has a working import function.
<snip>
I can't get Firefox 1.0PR to import anything either. I'm using Mozilla 1.7 as my alternative browser in the meantime, since that one has a working import function.
iGav
Sep 25, 08:51 AM
2004.........
swingerofbirch
Jun 17, 11:59 PM
I love the sound of British English; it sounds so clean and sterile and detached. I just saw Woody Allen's Match Point--it makes me want to take on a British accent--but I know that's kind of lame.
chmorley
Sep 13, 08:27 PM
Originally posted by gopher
...When your stage is 3 times longer, you have to go three times as fast to catch up.
If your Mac is slower than a PC for any reason on the same application it is because the software hasn't been optimized for the Mac. Write the software developer before you complain about the Mac speed. Get them to develop for Altivec. It makes a world of difference. Not true...and not true.
When a pipeline (not a "stage", as pipelines are made up of stages) is 3 times longer, there are more opportunities for inefficiencies. While in theory this could make some software 3 times less efficient, in real life this is rarely the case.
Secondly, saying the only time Macs are slower than PCs is when apps haven't been optimized for Altivec is patently false. Having applications utilize AltiVec is great, but it often doesn't make up for the fact that the processor is slower.
I am as Pro-Mac as the next guy, but getting the facts wrong makes us just look like we don't know anything about computers. The biggest pro of the Mac is the OS (and the elegance of the experience). It's foolish, though, not to acknowledge the downside, which is slower chips (some say "inferior hardware", but I think that overstates the importance of speed). Overall in the equation, I prefer Macs by a lot, but they're slower than PCs.
No need to deny it.
Chris
...When your stage is 3 times longer, you have to go three times as fast to catch up.
If your Mac is slower than a PC for any reason on the same application it is because the software hasn't been optimized for the Mac. Write the software developer before you complain about the Mac speed. Get them to develop for Altivec. It makes a world of difference. Not true...and not true.
When a pipeline (not a "stage", as pipelines are made up of stages) is 3 times longer, there are more opportunities for inefficiencies. While in theory this could make some software 3 times less efficient, in real life this is rarely the case.
Secondly, saying the only time Macs are slower than PCs is when apps haven't been optimized for Altivec is patently false. Having applications utilize AltiVec is great, but it often doesn't make up for the fact that the processor is slower.
I am as Pro-Mac as the next guy, but getting the facts wrong makes us just look like we don't know anything about computers. The biggest pro of the Mac is the OS (and the elegance of the experience). It's foolish, though, not to acknowledge the downside, which is slower chips (some say "inferior hardware", but I think that overstates the importance of speed). Overall in the equation, I prefer Macs by a lot, but they're slower than PCs.
No need to deny it.
Chris
krank
Oct 13, 12:17 AM
www.iphone.org.
www.macintouch.com.
www.macintouch.com.
saint
Sep 22, 08:22 PM
The 5% market share figure is still probably correct, or it is close to 5%.
It is because Macs seem to last longer than PCs that less of them are sold, so there are more Macs being used by people, but not as many are being sold.
It is because Macs seem to last longer than PCs that less of them are sold, so there are more Macs being used by people, but not as many are being sold.
Mudbug
Mar 23, 10:22 AM
I"m thoroughly contemplating installing a Mac mini in my van, just to see if I can. Maybe this fall I can do it. This front-end system seems to be a good step in the right direction.
TheFink
Oct 1, 02:17 PM
I think Steve will reveal what everyone knew he was hiding all along - iSuck.
killuminati
Sep 22, 09:08 PM
ummmmmmm. Care to elaborate?
keysersoze
May 18, 03:23 PM
Is it just my computers, or does it seem that we are all getting only Tinkers recently?
My numbers have gone from an all time high, to a new low recently, and our team stats have tanked as well. Looks like the other teams will have no problem passing us now if things stay the way they are going now!
I got slammed too. All the recent Tinkers I have gotten have taken at least 24 hours to process on my 2.3. I was excited to see how fast my machine would crank through them, but the first one I got on my new Mac took 3+ days!! :eek: :)
Again, put to shame.
My numbers have gone from an all time high, to a new low recently, and our team stats have tanked as well. Looks like the other teams will have no problem passing us now if things stay the way they are going now!
I got slammed too. All the recent Tinkers I have gotten have taken at least 24 hours to process on my 2.3. I was excited to see how fast my machine would crank through them, but the first one I got on my new Mac took 3+ days!! :eek: :)
Again, put to shame.
mikemodena
Apr 19, 10:58 PM
.. Shame Apple didn't do anything.
I'm sure there was a drunken celebration inside :p
I'm sure there was a drunken celebration inside :p
Sun Baked
Nov 16, 09:42 PM
Originally posted by ~Shard~
Kay, forgive my ignorance, but why are certain model #s selected for member ranking, and not others? Is it just arbitrary? It's just that there are so many models (5000s, 9000s, etc. etc. ), why were the 65xxxs and 68xxxs chosen? And then the progression to 600s?... They're not model numbers, they're CPUs.
ie, the 6502 is all the way back at the Apple ][, 68000s the first Mac CPU, and the 600s are the beginning of the PPC CPUs.
Kay, forgive my ignorance, but why are certain model #s selected for member ranking, and not others? Is it just arbitrary? It's just that there are so many models (5000s, 9000s, etc. etc. ), why were the 65xxxs and 68xxxs chosen? And then the progression to 600s?... They're not model numbers, they're CPUs.
ie, the 6502 is all the way back at the Apple ][, 68000s the first Mac CPU, and the 600s are the beginning of the PPC CPUs.
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